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romney is going to do what he did in the first debate. that is, american voters are very interested in style, maybe even more style over substance and that was the first debate you've ever seen where barack obama was outstyled. body language, mitt romney looked much more presidential and come out mitt romney and continue to strike contrasts say that we are not a government with a country, we're a country with a government and empower the people in every way possible and point out that, you know, americans have lost 40% of their net worth under this administration. as you pointed out earlier, gas prices are twice as high. we have acts of war on anniversaries of 9/11 with no response other than appointing the task force to understand whether it was a spontaneous task force. point these things out and do not play prevent defense or you will lose to barack obama. >> you can bet the president will come back on offense in the next debate, for sure. bernie thompson, thank you so much. i enjoyed listening to your radio show the other day, as well
romney is going to do what he did in the first debate. that is, american voters are very interested in style, maybe even more style over substance and that was the first debate you've ever seen where barack obama was outstyled. body language, mitt romney looked much more presidential and come out mitt romney and continue to strike contrasts say that we are not a government with a country, we're a country with a government and empower the people in every way possible and point out that, you...
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. >> it is widely agreed, speaking of debates, that mitt romney won the first debate, but did americans, particularly undecided voters get the whole story. cnn did some fact checking on comments made at the debate this week. i want you to listen to this on the topic of the deficit, first. >> mitt romney claims that even with his tax cuts, he will not add to the deficit. >> my number one principle there is no tax that that will add to the deficit. i will not put in place a deficit thdea tax that adds to the deficit. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> we want to look at the facts here, again. mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he would pay for his tax cut. he says it's by reducing deductions and closing loopholes, but he hasn't said which or how many. so, the verdict here is simply incomplete. we just don't know. >> that was john burrman reporting there for us. one way, though, is that romney has said that he would actually pay for this reduced revenue is by capping itemized deductions, but still so few specifics. i mean, he floated the
. >> it is widely agreed, speaking of debates, that mitt romney won the first debate, but did americans, particularly undecided voters get the whole story. cnn did some fact checking on comments made at the debate this week. i want you to listen to this on the topic of the deficit, first. >> mitt romney claims that even with his tax cuts, he will not add to the deficit. >> my number one principle there is no tax that that will add to the deficit. i will not put in place a...
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romney will spend part of the weekend in debate prep and the other part in hitting the president on the economy as a senior romney adviser put it, job growth should not be the new normal. >>> now to that shooting that killed a u.s. border patrol agent. the fbi now thinks he may have died by friendly fire. 30-year-old nicholas ivy was shot and killed this week in arizona. shell casings found at the scene was fired by ivy and another agent who was wounded. >> as you know, investigators have made progress into the investigation into agent ivy's death and are looking into the possibility that it was a tragic accident. the result of friendly fire. >> ivy is the third border patrol agent killed in the line of duty this year. >>> and in colorado, an amber alert has been issued after a 10-year-old girl disappeared on her way to school. this is a picture of her. take a look. the search was delayed because the girl's mother didn't know she was immediately missing. the mother slept through calls from school officials saying she had not arrived. police searched the surrounding area, but so far noth
romney will spend part of the weekend in debate prep and the other part in hitting the president on the economy as a senior romney adviser put it, job growth should not be the new normal. >>> now to that shooting that killed a u.s. border patrol agent. the fbi now thinks he may have died by friendly fire. 30-year-old nicholas ivy was shot and killed this week in arizona. shell casings found at the scene was fired by ivy and another agent who was wounded. >> as you know,...
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>> i don't think the moderated the debate at all. mitt romney debated the debate. >> why? >> he kept interrupting. >> and from your standpoint? >> i think it was a huge game changing the date for mitt romney. he came back from the beginning and wanted to get his plans and he really did. it was a good time for him to have a conversation with president obama pin he did control the debate. he made sure he got out every point he needed to get out. he made sure he got the last point. that is something he really needed to do. >> two seniors graduating next year from the university of denver. thank you for being here. >> thank you so much for having as. >> that you. >> checking on twitter, joe biden tweeted on the debate. taking your calls and reactions to the first presidential debate. next up is arizona. i am sorry, you are in arkansas. >> i thought this was a good solid basis for the first of three debates between two very good candidates that have never spoken face to face in a debate setting. i was really impressed by mitt romney, how he was talking about a new tax as a coas
>> i don't think the moderated the debate at all. mitt romney debated the debate. >> why? >> he kept interrupting. >> and from your standpoint? >> i think it was a huge game changing the date for mitt romney. he came back from the beginning and wanted to get his plans and he really did. it was a good time for him to have a conversation with president obama pin he did control the debate. he made sure he got out every point he needed to get out. he made sure he got...
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there's problems with the way romney went through that debate. looked good but didn't exactly convey a lot of truth. your thoughts? >> that's exactly what democrats are saying. paul ryan was out today and says that he expects for the next month he's going to hear from the obama campaign that they are liars and you hear liberals picking up on that. again, to go to this point about "saturday night live," i think it underscores what people already saw from that debate, which is that president obama turned in a very poor performance. i thought that he would have been smart to go on to "saturday night live" and sort of lampoon himself. we saw him do that out west. i guess the "saturday night live" folks reached out to him and they both declined. i think it has been a right of passage in elections, going back to 2008 when mccain was on, obama was on, hillary clinton was on and sarah palin, too. it is part of our political discourse. it reinforces the narratives. i think "snl" has had problems portraying obama. they switched to a new guy. jay ferrel see
there's problems with the way romney went through that debate. looked good but didn't exactly convey a lot of truth. your thoughts? >> that's exactly what democrats are saying. paul ryan was out today and says that he expects for the next month he's going to hear from the obama campaign that they are liars and you hear liberals picking up on that. again, to go to this point about "saturday night live," i think it underscores what people already saw from that debate, which is...
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romney in wednesday's debate. meanwhile, new data spurring a firestorm. conspiracy theorists openly suggested the white house manipulated the numbers. former ge ceo led the crowd with this quote, unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. he did not back down in an appearance on msnbc's "hardball" last night. >> i have no evidence to prove that. i just raised the question. >> you didn't raise the question. you said, these chicago guys will do anything so they changed the numbers. do you want to take that back? >> no. >> this was an assertion, jimmying with the number, corruption here, infiltration, getting to the -- it's not funny, jack. you're talking about the president of the united states playing with the burp oh of labor statistics numbers. this is nixon stuff. do you want to take back the charge? >> i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. >> joining me now for a close look at the jobs number, and a broiling controversy, chief economist for vice president biden and senior fellow on budget
romney in wednesday's debate. meanwhile, new data spurring a firestorm. conspiracy theorists openly suggested the white house manipulated the numbers. former ge ceo led the crowd with this quote, unbelievable job numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. he did not back down in an appearance on msnbc's "hardball" last night. >> i have no evidence to prove that. i just raised the question. >> you didn't raise the question. you said,...
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this mitt romney needs to debate the old mitt romney as well. on each of these things he's taken the opposite position. there's an extended criticism of the president's take on syria, for instance. yet this is the same mitt romney who also said getting involved with libya would be mission creep. he opposed that in one country and now proposes it somewhere else. the point of consistent for him is israel. to pa are a phrase joe biden every foreign policy sentence has a noun, verb and the word israel in it. when it comes to the actual position saying a president needs to be involved in the middle east, it's drifted, that's true about the peace process. this is the same mitt romney, i believe, who was taped talking about the 47% and said, you know, when it comes to the middle east it's never going to happen. i will leave it to the next guy. >> we have that. let's listen to what mitt romney. almost literally said to kick the can down the road. this is part of the infamous 47% videotape taken surreptitiously in florida this year. let's listen to what
this mitt romney needs to debate the old mitt romney as well. on each of these things he's taken the opposite position. there's an extended criticism of the president's take on syria, for instance. yet this is the same mitt romney who also said getting involved with libya would be mission creep. he opposed that in one country and now proposes it somewhere else. the point of consistent for him is israel. to pa are a phrase joe biden every foreign policy sentence has a noun, verb and the word...
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and governor romney is a good debater. he won almost every debate in the republican primaries with the exception i think of south carolina. so i expect that there will be movement. i if there's no movement two or three days after the debate, if those figures in the background states stay the same, it really is over. >> katty, there's constant complains among conservatives about romney. why is he losing? that's been the question all along. here is more of that column i mentioned. it makes you think how far ahead romney would be if he were actually running a campaign. his unwillingness to go big is astonishing. a hit-and-run critique here, slogan of the week there. his only momentum when he chose paul ryan and seemed ready to engage on the big stuff, medicare, kbiemthmentes, but he has retreated to the small and safe. when you're behind, safe is fatal. even his counterpunching has gone miniature. >> this reminds me a little bit of the mccain campaign back in 2008 in those days at the end when you felt like the campaign was g
and governor romney is a good debater. he won almost every debate in the republican primaries with the exception i think of south carolina. so i expect that there will be movement. i if there's no movement two or three days after the debate, if those figures in the background states stay the same, it really is over. >> katty, there's constant complains among conservatives about romney. why is he losing? that's been the question all along. here is more of that column i mentioned. it makes...
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taken after the debate twice as many undecided voters said romney was the winner. >> debates are much about style and substance and bill plante is in denver. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. this was a debate about the economy. and the preside presented oppos visions on how to fix it. president obama appeared low key, mitt romney very energetic and aggressive. >> the president began this segment so i get the last word. >> reporter: romney took advantage that the format of the debate was less restrictive. frequently pushing past moderator jim lehrer's attempts to change the subject. >> have to respond to that. >> reporter: as romney pushed on the president looked down or away even as he kept a slight smile on his face. for the president accusing romney to seeking to cut money for education, romney snapped back in one of the debates few pointed moments. >> as a president you're entitied to your own airplane and own house but not your own facts. >> reporter: he offered few details about tax cuts. prompting the president to fire back. >> when governor romney said he'll repl
taken after the debate twice as many undecided voters said romney was the winner. >> debates are much about style and substance and bill plante is in denver. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. this was a debate about the economy. and the preside presented oppos visions on how to fix it. president obama appeared low key, mitt romney very energetic and aggressive. >> the president began this segment so i get the last word. >> reporter: romney took advantage...
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you look through this debate, ann romney looked like he enjoyed it and was having fun. obama just looked sort of sour and it was like another headache that he had to be there. romney support is needed to be reinvigorated. the question is, what did happen with the undecideds. is that enthusiasm going to spread out in terms of who is going to vote. >> was their body language that you noticed? >> i thought both of them behaved with considerable dignity and courtesy to each other, which people like. as meaghan pointed out, the president was continually looking down and sometimes had an expression on his face that seemed like a smirk. that never helps you. i thought governor romney's body language was pretty good, and the expression on his face this kind of a half smile, not a smirk, as he was looking at the president while he spoke. it was probably better than having him looking down. those observations on body language. >> both of the campaign spending a lot of time in ohio. this is ohio on the democrats' line. >> i watched the debate. i thought the president was very pres
you look through this debate, ann romney looked like he enjoyed it and was having fun. obama just looked sort of sour and it was like another headache that he had to be there. romney support is needed to be reinvigorated. the question is, what did happen with the undecideds. is that enthusiasm going to spread out in terms of who is going to vote. >> was their body language that you noticed? >> i thought both of them behaved with considerable dignity and courtesy to each other, which...
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romney trailed in this survey by 9 points before the debate. so that's a big shift toward mitt romney and away from barack obama in that poll. like wise in the new gallup poll, mr. romney polled even with the president after the debate erasing a 5-point advantage for the president. we have new polls from the swing states and near swing states. polls that include reaction to the first debate. in wisconsin today the president leads by just two points. that's according to a relatively left-leaning poll. that particular poll previously showed the president having a 7-point lead before the debate. in colorado, in one right-leaning poll romney is now up by 3 points. the same showed him losing by 5 before the debate. now he's up by 3. in virginia, the president is ahead by 3 in virginia. that same poll had the president's lead at 5 points before the debate. that shows the president's lead shrinking. in michigan, it's now barack obama by just 3 points. the president had led by 10 last month. now it's down to 3. in ohio today, a poll on the right gives
romney trailed in this survey by 9 points before the debate. so that's a big shift toward mitt romney and away from barack obama in that poll. like wise in the new gallup poll, mr. romney polled even with the president after the debate erasing a 5-point advantage for the president. we have new polls from the swing states and near swing states. polls that include reaction to the first debate. in wisconsin today the president leads by just two points. that's according to a relatively left-leaning...
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gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut taxes on the rich. i don't have a medicare voucher plan. i love teachers, i think we need more of them. i mean, look, don't believe me, speaker gingrich was pretty eloquent in running during the primaries in saying, look, mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> well, one thing i have been saying about the campaign is the president needs surrogates out there, he needs confederates, people out there. i love charleston. a lot of people -- rather charlotte because in charlotte you heard an entire political party speaking led by people like deval patrick, the go
gibbs tried to tackle romney's debate flip-flops. i think he did it here. let's watch. >> it's not rocket science to believe that the president was disappointed in the expectations that he has for himself. but, look, i think part of that was because, as i said earlier, we met a new mitt romney. we met a mitt romney that wanted to walk away from the central theory of his economic plan which is his tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that's $4.8 trillion or $5 trillion. i'm not going to cut...
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mitt romney had the luxury of preparation endlessly for this debate. this is his full-time job as running for president. the president, you know, actually has a full-time job and that is running the country. he was rusty and it showed. mitt romney had had 20 debates this year. was very well prepared. and that showed too. but i do think president obama was able to do the contrast. i loved when he looked directly to the camera and talked to the american people about his plan in protecting the middle class versus mitt romney's but he certainly missed some opportunities. >> here is the thing. when it comes to issues, a lot of people are talking about what wasn't mentioned of the debate like romney's 47% comment, romney's taxes, bain capital. why didn't the president mention these things? >> that's exactly right, carol, and what i was about to say is that he absolutely missed some opportunities. i don't understand why he didn't bring up the 47%. i don't know understand why he didn't focus on bain and i don't understand why he did not go back very hard on mi
mitt romney had the luxury of preparation endlessly for this debate. this is his full-time job as running for president. the president, you know, actually has a full-time job and that is running the country. he was rusty and it showed. mitt romney had had 20 debates this year. was very well prepared. and that showed too. but i do think president obama was able to do the contrast. i loved when he looked directly to the camera and talked to the american people about his plan in protecting the...
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did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been prepared for those kinds of attacks. he should not have looked surprised and he should have been much more deft at not just defending his own record and talking about where we have been and what he has done to shore up the middle class and what he will continue to do, but he should have absolutely brought up the 47%, his offshoring, the fact that mitt romney does not want to come clean on his income taxes and i think that would have been a much different debate. >> i can see that crystal is jumping in there. unfortunately, you can't do it just yet. we have to have a commer
did he not watch those debates? has he never seen mitt romney debate? >> i think that is a very good question, piers, because you would think that in talking about the preparation, you would take a look at all of the debates and actually, the one with newt gingrich is the one that i think they needed to take a look at, because that's where he eviscerated the speaker, and he did it by telling the blatant lies that newt gingrich actually talked about the next day. so he should have been...
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, romney had a great advantage, the next debate, romney will have the expectations high, and obama will have them low. that is an advantage for obama. it did not fundamentally change the race but --. >>eric: i am not sure we will talk about, i hope, the poll --. >>guest: i thought you didn't like polls? >>eric: can you turn off your phone. we will talk about this on "the five." >>guest: we will talk polls and we will talk about that. i will say this, you cannot take anything away from romney. he did a very good job. obama, i don't know where he was. he just didn't show up. >>eric: we are in a boat, all five of us, they have to throw one out of the boat because one is sinking. who goes first, you make the decision? >>guest: there is a phone interrupting me. i couldn't hear. >>eric: we are all five in a boat and the boat is sinking, who do you throw off the boat? >>guest: i wouldn't throw of us five? we go down together! absolutely. together. remember the star of the show is "the five," the show, right? all of us could go down and they would get five more and it would be fine. it is nice
, romney had a great advantage, the next debate, romney will have the expectations high, and obama will have them low. that is an advantage for obama. it did not fundamentally change the race but --. >>eric: i am not sure we will talk about, i hope, the poll --. >>guest: i thought you didn't like polls? >>eric: can you turn off your phone. we will talk about this on "the five." >>guest: we will talk polls and we will talk about that. i will say this, you cannot...
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mitt romney came prepared to play, drove to debate. i don't think the president has been talked to like this over the past four years, and i think he was so surprised that romney was just sort of plat out lying, never proposed a 20% tax cut. we've been hearing that a lot. and i think that threw him off his game. it propels all of his campaign into the next debate. mitt romney could have gone down and this race would have been over. now we have a horse race on our hands. >> do you think democrats will hire rob portman for debate preparation? >> the ads in the campaign, so negative, and so nasty. t i expected president obama to start bucking about bain capital, 47%. >> never debate on your anniversary, an important lesson. it just doesn't seem to work. the big change, president obama running ads in the swing states about this terrible person mitt romney who wants to eat babies and throw granny in the snow. just terrible. that guy didn't show up. america met a guy with very calm, presidential dem temperament. as a matter of fact, snis int
mitt romney came prepared to play, drove to debate. i don't think the president has been talked to like this over the past four years, and i think he was so surprised that romney was just sort of plat out lying, never proposed a 20% tax cut. we've been hearing that a lot. and i think that threw him off his game. it propels all of his campaign into the next debate. mitt romney could have gone down and this race would have been over. now we have a horse race on our hands. >> do you think...
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did you see what big bird did to romney's car right after the debate? show what happened. look at that. that's unbelievable. that is unbelievable. he is not happy. he is not happy. >> of course obama and romney differed on many subjects throughout the debate. there was one moment where they really came together in perfect harmony. check it out. [ laughter ] >>> and you're in "the situation room." happening now, obama 2.0 smiling, laughing, energized the president's dramatic turnaround from his lackluster debate performance. mitt romney is now admitting his controversial remark about those 47%. he now says that was 100% wrong. and the latest computer scam, hackers holding your vital data for ransom. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> the obama supporters turned out to see the president in cleveland today may have wondered where was this guy on wednesday night. today the president was all fired up. he was punching away at his rival mitt romney. and that was a stark contrast to his ra
did you see what big bird did to romney's car right after the debate? show what happened. look at that. that's unbelievable. that is unbelievable. he is not happy. he is not happy. >> of course obama and romney differed on many subjects throughout the debate. there was one moment where they really came together in perfect harmony. check it out. [ laughter ] >>> and you're in "the situation room." happening now, obama 2.0 smiling, laughing, energized the president's...
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romney's solid debate performance gave him a new spark on the. campaign trail. before an estimated 10,000 people in virginia he kept up his attacks on the president. >> what you didn't hear last night from the president why it is the next four years will be better than the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back from attacking romney during the debate but that chang when he returned to the campaign trail. >> i almost got to watch out. >> reporter: the president attacked romney's plan to cut subsidies to pbs and his position was so different from what he said in the past he didn't recognize who he was debating. >> whoever was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what mitt romney has been saying in the last year. >> obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars. yes we do. >> reporter: biden said the super wealthy needs to pay more. romney says that will kill jobs. another wild card in this race comes later this morning. the governme
romney's solid debate performance gave him a new spark on the. campaign trail. before an estimated 10,000 people in virginia he kept up his attacks on the president. >> what you didn't hear last night from the president why it is the next four years will be better than the last four years. >> reporter: the obama campaign admits it needs a change in strategy for the next two debates. president obama held back from attacking romney during the debate but that chang when he returned to...
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how was it debating romney? was he cut and slash? what's he like and what can you tell us about tonight? >> number one, governor romney will be the most prepared person on that stage. secondly, he will have the deepest depth of knowledge on that stage. i know that firsthand from going up against him. and here's the other thing i don't think a lot of people are expecting. his likability will come through because he has gotten a bad rap about this likability factor. but he will be the most prepared. he will also have the most depth of knowledge and he will have every opportunity to back obama into a corner on all of the major issues. >> let me ask you on that, backing him into a corner. romney had some spectacular debates, not all of them. but in florida he took newt gingrich out. newt gingrich no slouch at debating or intellect for that matter. and then later on he took out rick santorum. it's like he had a machete in his hand and he knocked these guys down. is it possible he might do the same thing about president obama who is rusty,
how was it debating romney? was he cut and slash? what's he like and what can you tell us about tonight? >> number one, governor romney will be the most prepared person on that stage. secondly, he will have the deepest depth of knowledge on that stage. i know that firsthand from going up against him. and here's the other thing i don't think a lot of people are expecting. his likability will come through because he has gotten a bad rap about this likability factor. but he will be the most...
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>>ut romney needed a good debate. >> absolutely. >> romney needed it and the press needed. a race is good for the press. >> that's true. >> and that's good for america. >> it's good for america. >> we should all be heavily courted. i'm happy we've got a race on our hands. >> i bet you are heavily courted. [ laughter ] >> we've heard so many boxing metaphors which always are applicable when we're talking debates one-on-one of course. barack obama is a competitive guy. there's no way he can't come back and figure this out -- >> i don't want to use shopping metaphors, i don't think sports metaphors, you lose me in all that. >> because men are not supposed to like to shop, right, governor? nice tie. you like my jacket? >> if romney could pull one thing back which would be more than the 47%, he went the wrong direction in the auto industry. that's going to kill him in ohio. >> there's also things i think president obama would like to pull back. >> all of us. >> same with latinos, he'd like to pull back having offered he was going to do immigration reform in the first year a prom
>>ut romney needed a good debate. >> absolutely. >> romney needed it and the press needed. a race is good for the press. >> that's true. >> and that's good for america. >> it's good for america. >> we should all be heavily courted. i'm happy we've got a race on our hands. >> i bet you are heavily courted. [ laughter ] >> we've heard so many boxing metaphors which always are applicable when we're talking debates one-on-one of course. barack...
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"romney won debate because he lost lied." one asked you said one of mitt romney's strength as a debater was his willingness to lie at ease. was the president adequately prepared to call him out on that? joining me, dana perino. was the president adequately repaired to call him out on his lying? >> the media seems surprised that the candidates they have always long loved and supported, president obama was not a good debater. he actually has never been a good debater. they were totally surprised mitt romney was a good debate. i have not understood this lying thing from the beginning. i heard people say you lied when you ran because you didn't fulfill a promise. but you stand up in front of american people and you are talking about your proposals. the lies -- this doesn't stand up for me. then it doesn't student scrutiny. you get all these headlines. every fact checker says it's not a lie. megyn: they are focused on his statement he doesn't plan a $5 trillion tax cut as president obama suggested. >> so one of the president's fol
"romney won debate because he lost lied." one asked you said one of mitt romney's strength as a debater was his willingness to lie at ease. was the president adequately prepared to call him out on that? joining me, dana perino. was the president adequately repaired to call him out on his lying? >> the media seems surprised that the candidates they have always long loved and supported, president obama was not a good debater. he actually has never been a good debater. they were...
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after the debate they were in the 60's, which is to say in this debate romney had two tasks. one was to explain why the president has failed and be very aggressive there that and then he had another task that sort of conflicted with the first in that he needs to be appealing enough that people would like him, find something worth voting for him about not just because they didn't like barack obama. well that number in the instant poll which those are fluky and shouldn't put too much emphasis on them but gives us inkling of where the currents are going. that's good for romney. i'll echo mike the campaign needed a pause in what was a slide. i think they got the pause and the question is now when you thank you about a new romney, he's had a lot of different iterations in his life. you can imagine the obama campaign trying to make sofg a mediocre debate will jump on that notion of new and say he's created a whole new persona than the guy who ran in the primaries. >> rose: norah. >> president obama left his greatest hit on the cutting room floor. there was no mention of bain or no
after the debate they were in the 60's, which is to say in this debate romney had two tasks. one was to explain why the president has failed and be very aggressive there that and then he had another task that sort of conflicted with the first in that he needs to be appealing enough that people would like him, find something worth voting for him about not just because they didn't like barack obama. well that number in the instant poll which those are fluky and shouldn't put too much emphasis on...